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  Fired for eating pork........

  by closer2fine in

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  orlando, fla. -- a central florida woman was fired from her job after eating "unclean" meat and violating a reported company policy that pork and pork products are not permissible on company premises, according to local 6 news.

  " holfeld asked.

  "we do, we can," kweli said.

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  This is a disgusting case. This woman was not being discriminated because of her religion-she's Catholic- or her lack of being Muslim. I am not an expert on the Catholic religion, but I do tend to remember little quirks I hear about religions. I have never heard of any Caholic requirement that requires that one eat pork products while at work.

  I have a genuine issue with an individual, who after receiving a warning, along with an explanation, continues to disrespect the wishes of her employer. How much of a hardship, really, was it for her to have made a turkey sandwich for lunch rather than frying up the bacon and making the BLT.

  While I respect the notion of standing up for an issue, here was an employer, who genuinely wanted to bring glory to his version of god in everything he did. What he was asking was not all that discriminatory against this employee. Had he demanded that all his employees refrain from eating pork ALL the time, or stop several times a day, to face Mecca, and pray to Allah, I would be singing a different tune.

  It sounds to me that this plaintiff created her own tort here. That doesn't sit well with me, and I don't repect the attorney who took this case (I wouldn't be surprised if this attorney was on board BEFORE the BLT). I hope this disappears in summary judgment.

  Shoshana
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  August 15th WT - Eliminate your unnecessary hobbies and projects

  by truthseeker in

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  the third study article in the august 15th wt is entitled "tired, but not tiring out.".

  it is of interest that the borg are further reducing the quality of life for their members by the following paragraph (pg 24, para 11).

  sometimes what complicates our lives is, not the pursuit of more things, but what we do with the things we already have.. some may experience emotional fatigue as a result of challenging health problems, the loss of loved ones, or other.

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  Most normal folks, when packing up the equipment and items for a hobby they are abandoning, contemplate giving those items to charity. What I noticed was that the article said those items were simply put out of sight, not donated. Since WBTS does not participate in social charity, it cannot recommend that these items be donated, to its own (nonexistent) charity forum, nor can it suggest a donation to another cause (since these are worldly, and often a part of Christendom). This glaring omission speaks volumes.

  Nor did the article suggest that these items be sold, like at a garage or yard sale, or a flea market, or boot sale, or online auction Why? This would take a lot of time, planning and energy, which then could not be sucked by WBTS. It could subject an unwitting JW to bad associations, and possibly new, even more time/money consuming hobbies (some people spend their entire weekends going to sales and flea markets, and love it!), or in the case of an online auction, a JW may accidentally wander onto an apostate site, sell to an apostate, or buy more junk than they sell.

  Must admit, though, WBTS missed an opportunity to get some cash. They could have urged the rank and file to sell all their hobby related items and to give WBTS the proceeds AND the extra time they would have, now that they have abandoned their hobbies.

  No doubt it was discussed amongst the Bethel Boys and decided that the risk of contamination through selling the items to worldlies (since selling them to another JW would defeat the purpose) was greater than the small benefit there might have been from a brief influx of some garage sale bucks...

  Shoshana
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  Do You Realize How Much Being a Witness Has Hindered You?

  by minimus in

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  the truth is------- we have lost out on soooooo much, simply because we were witnesses.

  it might b like almost starting all over again, for some of us.

  what hits you as to what you could've had or have outrightly lost??

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  For me the biggest hindrance was never feeling safe and secure as a young child. My first memories are of knowing I would never measure up, getting destroyed at armageddon, while my mother pranced through unscathed-almost delighting in my destruction. I never felt carefree as a youngster. I was always worried, on the defensive and ultimately insecure and depressed.

  I overcompesate for that now by trying to have everything in my life under my control. On the positive side of that control is that I got a degree and career job right away, bought my first and second houses, and started working on a second degree. However, I've discovered that the more security I get for myself, the more I have to lose, should someone tug a little on the five of spades holding up the roof on my house of cards.

  I'd give most of it up to feel normal, and TRULY, internally secure, no matter what happens outside of my control. I am starting to get a grip on this, thanks to a superb ex-witness therapist, and my own willingness to realize that the control must go, that I need to be needy, and to really rely others. It's not instant-oh how I wish it were instant. My fiance would have it a bit easier if it were instant.

  Shoshana
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  It's celebration time!

  by La Capra in

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  simon just posted about passing some tests...it's that time of year.

  as the "academic" year comes to a close, what sorts of academic achievements can we celebrate and offer congratulations for?.

  for many of us growing up, we had to hide our academic achievements (or our children's), and down play our academic interests and goals.

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  Avi-

  I am just of a really short attention span these days. I got tired of it. I don't have any other digital pictures of myself. Maybe one of these days that will change.

  Shoshana.
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  It's celebration time!

  by La Capra in

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  simon just posted about passing some tests...it's that time of year.

  as the "academic" year comes to a close, what sorts of academic achievements can we celebrate and offer congratulations for?.

  for many of us growing up, we had to hide our academic achievements (or our children's), and down play our academic interests and goals.

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  Simon just posted about passing some tests...It's that time of year. As the "academic" year comes to a close, what sorts of academic achievements can we celebrate and offer congratulations for?

  For many of us growing up, we had to hide our academic achievements (or our children's), and down play our academic interests and goals. But not anymore. Let's brag, celebrate and congratulate.

  I'll go second: I'm finishing my second year of law school Thursday night-my last final exam for the year! (Real Property).

  Shoshana
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  JW Get-togethers

  by Nosferatu in

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  do you have any good memories of jw get-togethers?

  a lot of my good memories of them have tarnished with age.

  i vaguely remember them.

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  My dad used to go to some with my mom, even though he wasn't a JW. At one anniversary party, an elder's wife was chatting them up. Since it was an anniversary, the number of years couples had been married was the topic. When my mother answered that they had been married for 20 years (or whatever it was), the shocked elder's wife's reply was "But your oldest, George, is only 17!" My mother was horrified, and my father was pissed. This was the last "witness" event he ever accompanied my mother to.

  A few years later, at a potluck at same elder's wife's house, I was in attendance. I have no clue what the occasion was. I was in my mid teens. Elder's wife's oldest daughter was quite fat, very healthy but fat (Elder's wife was pretty fat too). Whenever the daughter tried to get food from the table, her mother would try to take the plate away, or the food off the plate. When that wouldn't work, she would demand that the daughter split the food on the plate with her.

  I felt so bad for that girl, I still think of it. I wonder how she turned out. That's the only witness get-together that I have specific memories of. The rest sort of merge together into the same jello salads, napkins on heads, kids have to sit on the floor kind of visual...

  At some point my mom stopped letting me hang when the witness kids went out to do things. She would always have some excuse. I know now that the likelihood that I would have gotten into real trouble with them was stronger than if I hung out with my well-heeled worldly friends. I think she actually preferred that, we conjugated verbs in French, and practiced differential equations.

  Shoshana
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  Do hours in preaching affect social status?

  by new light in

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  deep down, i guess i know the answer to this one, but what the heck?

  is it common for someone to have a diminished jw social life for no other reason than being a low-hour publisher?

  not to seem conceited, but at the hall i was always smiling and quick-witted (i believe), talked to all types happily, gave good talks and demos, dressed well, smelled good, etc.

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  Oh, but that was your social life-doing field service, being invited to go, inviting others to go, choosing up teams (I mean car groups)...I'll pass. Staying home, sleeping in, reading the paper while enjoying a leisurely cup of coffee suited me much better for a social life. Then hanging out with nonJWs at a civilized hour: that was the real social life...Sweet! Shoshana

  PS: I just noticed, this post makes me senior member...does that mean I'm "in"? (chuckling at the irony of THIS being a status-changing-post).
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  Jews object to Mormon practice of baptizing dead Jews

  by Gopher in

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  http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=519&ncid=519&e=6&u=/ap/20040410/ap_on_re_us/baptizing_the_dead

  jewish group: mormons still baptize dead .

  fri apr 9, 9:28 pm etby mark thiessen, associated press writer.

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  Jews complain about most things

  Grrr.

  Shoshana
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  Who do you blame for the time you wasted as a DUB?

  by Thunder Rider in

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  think of all the time and energy you wasted sitting in meetings, going door to door and refraining from making friends and having enjoyable association with non dubs.

  think about how much of your finite life is lost to you because you were a witness.

  think about how foolish you looked, hanging on to the false teachings and empty hopes for the future.

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  I blame my mother, mostly and my father some.

  My mother for falling for it and then lying to us kids that my dad believed it was the truth, even though he never became a JW.

  I blame my father for never telling us he thought it was the biggest crock, early on, so that we grew up with some perspective.

  I don't blame myself too much, because less than a year after I ventured to university (1986) and got some perspective I was out out out.

  Shoshana
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  American Lawyers: Help on DF case!

  by Narkissos in

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  in a current european case, the wt lawyers refer to a judgment by the court of appeal of new jersey (nyc congregation of jws vs. mrs janice paul, # 819f.2d875, june 10, 1987) about the supposedly non-discriminatory character of the wt disfellowshipping arrangement and the related (shunning) instructions to its members.

  according to them, in this case an exjw sued the congregation for slander, breach of private life, fraud and insult as a consequence of her disfellowshipment.

  the court decided that the shunning of a disfellowshipped person was protected by the first amendment of the us constitution guaranteeing freedom of worship.

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  PS links to the referenced cases above won't work, Special access is required...Sorry. Shoshana